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KPPC: A Journey Through History


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Jason Medina

12:05 AM on February 16, 2017 

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It is too bad you did not contact me sooner. I could have used some of your stories and experiences in the book. I spoke to many former employees and a few former patients. The book is now in the hands of the publisher. It should be ready for release in a couple of months. I hope you will get a copy. You won't be disappointed and your daughter will have all the history should could ever want to know about the KPPC at her disposal, along with over 3100 photos.

Dezerep
11:41 PM on February 10, 2017 

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I worked at KPPC for a short period of time in the late 70's. while a friend of mine worked with me stayed there for 30 mor so more years. The memories I have of that place are still quite vivid. I told my daughter some PG rated versions of stories. While still young, she was enthralled. So much so, that when a free tour was announced just a few years ago, she wanted me to take her there...and I didnright around Halloween. Perfect time! However, there was such a huge turn out that I just gave a tour myself. As the day got darker and the wind and clouds rolled in, we soon left after exploring and entering the buildings. Suffice to say we soon left as it got dark and a day room door slammed from the wind echoing to the road outside. At which point, my daughter asked to leave. Though she was scared, she was thrilled going there and hearing stories. She was so impressed hat she told my brother, who was in film school at the time, and we ended up making a short film called 'Super 48'. While it's been decades since I worked there, it never left me. While I was threatened by just a few patience, I saw them all as human beings and treated them as such as best I could. When they shut the facility, we lightly joked about it and envisioned how it could be presented to patience. Something like: 'Hello Mr. X! I have some good news and bad news: the bad news is that the State ran out of money and will be shutting down the hospital.' ' So what's the good news?' We imagined they would ask. ' Well the good news is: you are cured!'

Jason Medina

10:06 AM on August 9, 2016 

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There is more than one documentary available on DVD. One is called Forgotten Wards. You can buy it on Amazon.com. Another one is called The Kings Park Story or My Kings Park Story and it is by a former patient named Lucy Winer. Both are very informative.

Carmela Mone' Hilton
4:30 AM on August 9, 2016 

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Hello, I have been reading your articles on KPPH and I am very interested in locating a Movie on the hospital. I worked in building A and B as well as Building 7 on the 7th floor and the x-ray dept up until 1969. I went to classes there as they were required by the state. I have information as I would love to share with you. When I became pregnant in 1968 I transferred into the recreation dept. Along with my mother who was a recreation ade. I visited the grounds last year along with my husband, daughter and her fiance to show them where I worked. I saw some patients sitting outside that were staring at us. It looked as though they lived there. I purchased adocumentary last year on amazon.com and there was another movie I wanted to get. If you can tell me where I would appreciate it. Thank you. Carmela Mone'Hilton

Jason Medina
6:37 PM on December 5, 2014 

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Arlette Kelly says...

While looking through the pictures of KPPC, I kept getting feelings as if I had been there. When I came across one of the more recent photos of one of the wards where patients were housed it came to me. I think I was there back in the mid 80's to visit someone an old boyfriend knew. I remember walking around the grounds and thinking that this place is huge and extremely scary. When the patient came out to see us I can remember him being on Thorozine. He had no life in his eyes and he kind of just "shuffled" along. It was really sad. If I remember correctly he was a Schizophrenic and that's why he was there. He had come off his medications and had gotten into a lot of trouble, so the judge sent him there. Now I want to make sure that this is the right place. Were they still in operation for the mentally ill in the 80's?

Yes, it was still in operation until the fall of 1996. It is located on the northern part of central Long Island at Kings Park, NY, in Suffolk County. There is a long boulevard that goes right up the middle of the property from Route 25A. Lots of trees around on both sides. Sound familiar at all?

Arlette Kelly
4:19 PM on November 29, 2014 

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While looking through the pictures of KPPC, I kept getting feelings as if I had been there. When I came across one of the more recent photos of one of the wards where patients were housed it came to me. I think I was there back in the mid 80's to visit someone an old boyfriend knew. I remember walking around the grounds and thinking that this place is huge and extremely scary. When the patient came out to see us I can remember him being on Thorozine. He had no life in his eyes and he kind of just "shuffled" along. It was really sad. If I remember correctly he was a Schizophrenic and that's why he was there. He had come off his medications and had gotten into a lot of trouble, so the judge sent him there. Now I want to make sure that this is the right place. Were they still in operation for the mentally ill in the 80's?

Jason Medina
1:27 AM on September 1, 2014 

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Erin says...

I have a story. My therapist and I often talk about KPPC since I go there so often, and she has an old man who is a patient that is 80 or 9- from what i recall. One day I brought her a patient file book from Building 93 that I took to show him. She said he told her this. At night the male workers would ask the female patients if they wanted to do a "piggy". This meant going into the woods and having sex with them. If it wasn't the staff doing it, it was the men at the local bar. This man that my therapist sees said there was this man at the bar, very big, and said if he or anyone ever told he'd kill them.

I think that story is so sad. Defenseless and ill women being treated like that. I don't know if you've heard this story before, but I would be able to get more info if you wanted to use it in tour book. Great site and keep up the good work!

You are right. That is a very sad story. It's terrible, especially for those it happened to. However, I am wondering if I used it in my book, if it would cause problems for the person that told it to you. Of course, I would be very vague about it and make sure it didn't get back to you, unless that person read this blog!

Erin

8:20 PM on August 26, 2014 

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I have a story. My therapist and I often talk about KPPC since I go there so often, and she has an old man who is a patient that is 80 or 9- from what i recall. One day I brought her a patient file book from Building 93 that I took to show him. She said he told her this. At night the male workers would ask the female patients if they wanted to do a "piggy". This meant going into the woods and having sex with them. If it wasn't the staff doing it, it was the men at the local bar. This man that my therapist sees said there was this man at the bar, very big, and said if he or anyone ever told he'd kill them.

I think that story is so sad. Defenseless and ill women being treated like that. I don't know if you've heard this story before, but I would be able to get more info if you wanted to use it in tour book. Great site and keep up the good work!

Jason Medina
4:44 PM on April 25, 2014 

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Thanks, Jose!

magic1122o says...

HI! Jason! Hope all is well with you and yours! Getting married Congrates on that, hope you and your lovely wife have a good time together on your honeymood!! I shall awaite your return. And thanks for my inclusiion in the book. But you did ask if I'd like to share, didn't you? And that's all I was doing, sharing! Smile. Anyway, you go and enjoy your honeymoon, and have fun!! Later jose!!

magic1122o
6:33 AM on April 21, 2014

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jose rodriguez says...

My name is jose R. And I'm looking for people that were in building#21, on ward 221. from 1968 to 1975. My E-mail address is: [email protected] or [email protected] drop me a line. Thanks!!

magic1122o
8:44 AM on April 19, 2014 

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HI! Jason! Hope all is well with you and yours! Getting married Congrates on that, hope you and your lovely wife have a good time together on your honeymood!! I shall awaite your return. And thanks for my inclusiion in the book. But you did ask if I'd like to share, didn't you? And that's all I was doing, sharing! Smile. Anyway, you go and enjoy your honeymoon, and have fun!! Later jose!!

Jason Medina

1:37 AM on April 19, 2014 

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I am glad I could help in any way at all, Jose. I will keep you informed when this book is finally ready for release. You have earned a signed free copy already. I have been a little busy lately with my wedding coming up, but as soon as I return from my honeymoon I will work on your story and send you a copy of how it looks and how it will appear in the book for your approval. Thanks, again, for sharing!

magic1122o

6:39 PM on April 17, 2014 

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Hi! All, this is jose. And I have to say, that looking at the videos of building 21, brings back alot of memories. following those young men and woman through the hall's of ward 221, and seeing those empty, and spooky looking rooms that I once new. Even though I slept in a large room with about 30 other guys. I remember hanging out with friends in these rooms. And bothering the counselors about getting one! Didn't get it though. I Tell you, through being there I know how to draw, at most. Yea, lot's of memories!! The window legde was my spot after being served my medication, "Thorozine, yuk!!' But the commination of heat and looking out the window, and wishing to be free and with my mother put me to sleep on this legde. Aside from my crying cause I really miss my mother. And I'd like to thank jason, for allowing me and other the oppounity to express ourself's on pages like this! later. jose.

magic1122o
7:49 AM on April 10, 2014

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Thanks for the info, Jason!! I will check out your information, ok!! jose.

Jason Medina
4:44 PM on April 25, 2014 

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magic1122o says...

Hi!! jason, this is jose R. Would you be in contact with anyone who was like me in building #21? and if so, could it be possiable to send me that persons e-mail address or send them mine? I would appreciate it. Thank you!!

Hey, Jose. Unfortunately, the other former patients I am in touch with prefer to remain anonymous. The only one I can think of who was in that building that would be willing to speak about her experiences is Lucy Winer, who can be found on Facebook. You can also google her name. She did a documentary on her experiences at the hospital, which I believe you might like to check out. It's available on DVD and she also does public screenings of the film throughout New York.

jose rodriguez

2:20 PM on March 26, 2014 

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My name is jose R. And I'm looking for people that were in building#21, on ward 221. from 1968 to 1975. My E-mail address is: [email protected] or [email protected] drop me a line. Thanks!!

Jason Medina
3:41 AM on November 28, 2013 

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That's good to hear. Thanks!

lisa
12:46 AM on November 21, 2013 

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Oh I'm def buying it! :)

Jason Medina
1:47 AM on November 3, 2013 

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Sorry, Lisa, I am saving my stories for my book. You will have to buy it if you want to read about my experiences at the hospital. Blondia, if you want me to add the stories about your family, just email me at [email protected] and tell me what you want me to put in the book. We can speak in private instead of here. You should definitely take a ride out there, Annie. It really is a beautiful place to visit now.

Lisa
3:13 PM on October 29, 2013 

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I am a frequent adventurer of this place. I'd absolutely love to hear your stories if you are willing to tell them. e-mail [email protected]


BLONDIA says...

I HAVE PERSONEL INFORMATION I WANT TO ADD TO YOUR BOOK TWO OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THERE, MY GRANDMOTHER IN 1963, WHEN I WAS ONE AND MY BROTHER WHO WAS BEAT TO DEATH IN 1973 WHEN I WAS TEN. WILL TELL MORE

Annie

11:19 PM on October 24, 2013 

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My great-grandmother Ann Campbell worked at the hospital as a nurse who administered drugs to the patients in the early to mid 1970's. I've driven by a few times. I can say I have a fascination with this place and I do plan to go back soon.

Jason Medina
8:55 AM on February 10, 2013 

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Shannon, I know exactly who you are. I could never forget you. I was wondering how you've been doing. It's really good to hear from you. I have to update you.


This KPPC book is being temporarily put on hold until the demolitions are done at the hospital. They are in the process of tearing down a bunch of the buildings. They are more than halfway done already with the chosen buildings that are to go. They are not demolishing the entire hospital. Only about 19 structures. The buildings where your mother stayed are all staying. Once the demolition project is complete, then I will finish this book. I want to include photos of the demolitions. They will be a great addition to the book that will be the definitive history of the hospital, as my friend Barry put it.


In the meantime, I am working on a fictional book that has three different stories about former patients, which are all connected in some way. They are not based on fact, although I have included a lot of actual things that happened at the hospital. The book is almost finished. It's called "No Hope for the Hopeless at Kings Park." I believe anyone who is interested in this hospital in any way, will enjoy these three tales that will be included in this upcoming book.

Check out my new website to get a look at all of my future projects. I will be a very busy man for the next 15-25 years. I do love to write.


www.JasonMedinaTribalPublications.com/

Shannon Finley

9:13 PM on February 8, 2013 

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We used to talk a couple of years ago. I live in Montana. I wrote a lot about my mother Jennie who resided in KPPC for 20 years. I was her daughter. You said you were going to include what I wrote in an entire chapter of the book you were writing on KPPC. Is the book done or not. I just now got internet access. My email address is [email protected] or you can call me at 406-274-5103. Don't forget the time change difference. For the record we are considering moving back to Long Island, my new husband, and my 10 year old son.

Jason Medina
8:53 AM on January 18, 2013 

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That actually sounds very interesting. It's the kind of story I'd definitely like to include. Send me the story at my email address, [email protected]

BLONDIA
12:04 AM on January 13, 2013 

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I HAVE PERSONEL INFORMATION I WANT TO ADD TO YOUR BOOK TWO OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THERE, MY GRANDMOTHER IN 1963, WHEN I WAS ONE AND MY BROTHER WHO WAS BEAT TO DEATH IN 1973 WHEN I WAS TEN. WILL TELL MORE

Jason Medina
7:15 PM on December 21, 2012 

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I just wanted to say that I've created a new website that will be dedicated to my books. Any book I write or plan to write will be featured in detail on this new website, including this book about the KPPC. I will also keep this website active and as up to date, as possible. Here is the link to the new site:


http://www.jasonmedinatribalpublications.com/

Jason Medina
10:25 PM on September 23, 2012 

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Barbara, I've already replied to you via email, so I shall skip being repetitive here. Moe, that sounds great, but I think I have enough pics of those buildings. Let me know if you get anything good inside of Buildings 35 and 35, which are near Building 1. However, be careful with security now that the trees have been cleared away.

Moe
2:55 PM on August 18, 2012 

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Sorry, correction, we were in buildings 136 & 137. Pictures are still great though...lol

Moe
1:50 PM on August 18, 2012 

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We were just in building 135 a couple of days ago and got some great pictures if anyone wants to see them

B�rbara Moreno

3:14 PM on August 8, 2012 

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Hello Jason, I'm B�rbara, I'm from Mexico city. I'm so glad I found you thanks to facebook.

Ok, here is the thing: I am a jorunalist (just graduated from school, I am not famous and haven't published very much) and I am taking a workshop with a very important International journalist (T�moris Grecko in case you wanna know something about him). So for my final assigment i have to write a reportage from anything I want, but it needs to be "remote reportage", so I had to choose a place far enough from M�xico. I've always been intrigued by mental disorders, borderline cases and phychiatric centers. I did some researching on the web and came to KPCC, which is atonishing.

So for the last weeks I kept on looking for information, and found your website and your book project on this hospital. You are good man!

Well, I'm here to see if you would like to help me. I would like to write it and I thought of three ways I could do it:

1) Former Patient: I would like to know if there was any mexican patient at any time. I thought it would be super cool to tell story of a fellow citizen who experienced life at the hospital.

2) I think it might be easier to find a doctor (pshyquiatrist) instead of a patient. So maybe a mexican doctor was resident there, or maybe went to help in any particular case... I thought if I have a name, I could probably still look for him here in Mexico and try to arrange an interview.

3) I thought of just getting in touch with any family or patient (no matter the place) who is still alive and can tell me how did the hospital work. A story of a patient who is better or maybe remained at home after they closed the hospital. This just in case I can not find mexican links.


So, what do you think? I'd like to know if your book is done. Where can I find it?


It would be incredibly cool-nice-awesome- (don't have the right word) if you could help me with any information, links, mails, contacts, names, anything... This is something I really want to do, and people in M�xico don't know about this awe-inspiring place.


I also read they are about to start the demolishon, so I think its a good time to write and say as most of this place as we can, otherwise it will be lost for many people, at least by writing about it I can help for people at least to know it existed.


Ok, don't want to overwhelm... I just need to say I don't have much time. I have to have it done in less than 10 days. I know it is not much but I will be happy enough if I can write 3- 5 pages.


Thank you very much for your time, and keep it on with your books and investigations.

Jason Medina

6:54 PM on July 18, 2012 

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That would be great. Is it something you could scan and email? If you prefer to mail an actual copy I have a PO Box you could sent it to, if it isn't too much trouble. I'd give you credit for adding it to the book. Just send it to me with your full name as you want to be credited in the book. I'd really like to read it. Thanks. You can email it to [email protected] or mail it to Yonkers Ghost Investigators, PO Box 650, Yonkers, NY 10703-1414.

Amie B says...

Hello! I saw your link posted in response to a comment I made on facebook. I have the Kings Park Psychiatric Center Patient Bill of Rights that came out of one of the buildings. I'm not sure of the date or anything, it's just been on my wall for years. If you'd like to have it in your book just let me know. Thanks and good luck!

Amie

B3:53 AM on July 7, 2012 

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Hello! I saw your link posted in response to a comment I made on facebook. I have the Kings Park Psychiatric Center Patient Bill of Rights that came out of one of the buildings. I'm not sure of the date or anything, it's just been on my wall for years. If you'd like to have it in your book just let me know. Thanks and good luck!

Jason Medina
5:56 AM on June 4, 2012 

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Hi, Donna... there are no fences around most buildings there. There is a fence around one of the tallest ones, Building 93. There are also fences in front of the farm buildings and the buildings of Group 2, but they do not go all the way around.


Building 23 was the recreation building known as Buckman Hall and named for one of the directors of the hospital. It has 2 floors and only a sunken in basement. Inside you can find a bowling alley, a gym, a swimming pool, locker rooms, an auditorium, a library, and several other rooms that are now mostly empty.

Donna

5:56 PM on May 16, 2012 

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Hi. I'm doing some research for a fictional piece I'm working on, and I came across this great site of yours. I'm trying to get more info about building 23. Do you know if there is a fence around it like some of the other buildings? Thanks!

Jason Medina
10:51 AM on April 17, 2012

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Psych Center Demo Moved Out to July


Move will not change completion date

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By Jennifer Sloat (April 16, 2012)


Demolition that was scheduled to begin in May at the former Kings Park Psychiatric Hospital is now scheduled to start in July.


According to Regional Parks Director Ron Foley, the company designated to complete the demo, will be ready to start in July.


?Part of the thinking was that this was when school will be out and also, this works for the contractor?s own schedule,? said Foley.


The work, which was originally scheduled to begin mid-May, will be done by National Salvage and Service Corp., which was awarded a $6.4 million contract for the demolition of 15 abandoned buildings on the former Kings Park Psychiatric Hospital property.


According to Foley, the project is expected to meet its original completion date of Nov. 2013.

Jason Medina
9:22 AM on April 8, 2012 

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Hey, James... I do not have a roster of employees or patients. However, now that I've decided to delay the book for a few more months, it gives me time to hear some new stories. I would love to hear whatever you and your family have to tell. You can email the stories to me at [email protected] if you'd like.

Jason Medina

6:13 AM on April 7, 2012 

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ATTENTION - Due to the upcoming demolition project that will eliminate approximately 14 structures at the KPPC, I have decided to hold off on getting my book published because I'd like to photograph the demolitions and use that in my book. However, I have instead decided to go ahead and work on my fictional novels instead starting with "A Forgotten Man in a Forgotten Land," which takes place at the abandoned KPPC. I promise you will not be disappointed.

James O'Donohoe
10:19 PM on April 6, 2012 

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Both of my parents have worked at the hospital for over 30 years from the 60's-80's, as well as many relatives. We have some great stories to tell. If you are interested please email me. Also, do you have a patient and employee roster from that time period?

Jason Medina

1:13 PM on April 5, 2012 

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I sent you an email just now.


Julie Cappiello says...

Hi, Jason. I'm very interested in your work so far and was wondering if I could help out somehow. If you could please e-mail me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much!

Julie Cappiello|
7:40 PM on April 1, 2012 

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Hi, Jason. I'm very interested in your work so far and was wondering if I could help out somehow. If you could please e-mail me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much!

Jason Medina
4:35 AM on March 16, 2012 

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Psych Center Demo Contract Awarded. Project expected to start mid-May.

- Article by Jennifer Sloat (Editor of Kings Park Patch), March 9, 2012


A $6.4 million contract has been awarded to a Bloomington, Indiana company for the demolition of 15 abandoned buildings on the former Kings Park Psychiatric Hospital property.


The work, scheduled to begin mid-May, will be done by National Salvage and Service Corp., which presented the lowest bid on the project. The project is expected to be completed Nov. 2013.


A total of 20 bids were received on the project.


The project is expected to create around 65 jobs, including jobs for local subcontractors in areas such as rodent control, trucking and concrete restoration.


"I'm pleased that this spring will bring visible improvements in the safety and security risks at the Kings Park Psychiatric Center site," said New York State Park Commissioner, Rose Harvey, in a statement. "Once we get this important first step underway, State Parks looks forward to continuing to work with our partners on the state level and in the community to further revitalize this site," she said.


The bid comes in well below the $15 million allocated to undertake the demolition project. Funding for the project comes from a $25 million state budget appropriation initiated in 2006 by State Sen. John Flanagan.


"The fact that the accepted bid was significantly lower than originally anticipated is an encouraging sign and I look forward to working with State Parks to use the remaining funds in the most effective and efficient way possible," said Flanagan.


"I am also eager to work with the parks administration and the contractor to make sure that the community's way of life is protected during the upcoming process and that every attempt to hire workers from the immediate area will be made," said Flanagan.


At a Nov. 2011 meeting, held by state parks officials, residents raised questions concerning air and water quality during the demolition. Officials at the meeting called the plan well thought out and safe.

Four of the buildings slated for demolition are located within the 153-acre Nissequogue River State Park, which was established in 2000. The other 11 buildings that will be removed are located on an additional 35 acres of the property that were transferred to the agency in 2006. Some of the structures slated for removal include the smokestack and other structures adjacent to the abandoned power plant.


Advocate for Nissequogue River State Park, Linda Henninger said the announcement was great news.


"I am excited that a responsible bid came in that low. It shows that their initial remediation estimates were out of whack," she said.


In a study commissioned by the state back in 2010, the price of demolishing all 57 abandoned buildings and returning 368 acres to open space was $215 million.


Proponents of the park have long advocated for a master plan for the property, such as the one being developed for neighboring Sunken Meadow State Park. According to state parks spokesperson, Peter Brancato, the focus for now is on safety.

"Right now we are not focusing on a master plan. We are just focusing on bringing down the buildings as safely as possible. Then we will determine what the next phases will be as far as demolition and renovation.


According to Brancato, there won't be a master plan until Nov. 2013 or later when the second phase of demolition has been completed.


"We need to get to a certain condition first, then we can determine next steps," he said.


"I am disappointed with the 2013 date for a master plan. We still have to move forward. There is still a lot more work ahead to make this a thriving park," said Henninger. "The State's position on the timetable for the master plan is unacceptable and must be revisited."

(Copied from KingsParkPatch.com)

AHT Posse
7:17 AM on March 7, 2012 

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Visited KPPC yesterday and finally found Potter's Field. I can't believe they are knocking down some buildings its so sad to destroy a piece of Long Island history .

Jason Medina
9:48 PM on September 24, 2011 

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Gee, thanks.

Girl21pretty

12:30 PM on September 11, 2011 

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Jason Medina

10:40 PM on June 18, 2011

I've added many photos of other buildings. Soon I will add photos of the interiors, as well as the cemeteries.

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Jason Medina

7:18 PM on June 13, 2011 

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I attended the KPPC Reunion on June 10 and met with several former employees. I got new information and stories to use for the book. It was a good experience. I only wish some of the other people I know were there. It was the first time I went to Kings Park and didn't pass through the hospital grounds. If not for the fact that we had to go dressed up, then I would have gone there afterwards. Before the reunion I did some research at the new improved Smithtown Library at Commack on Indian Head Road. It was a productive visit. My girlfriend was with me.

Jason Medina
10:43 AM on April 17, 2011 

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I've added new video footage taken in the Spring of 2011 of the Veterans' Memorial Hospital Unit and the buildings of Group 2. I also compiled several other videos into a longer production done in black and white to give an olden time feel to it. Enjoy!

Jason Medina

4:45 AM on February 12, 2011 

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R.Deming says...

Worked in Building 22 for a couple of years in the early 70s. I still have a strange interest in the place. I guess because I lived in KP.I live out west but visit now and then. Like to drive thru the place.


It is a great feeling to drive through the boulevard or Old Dock Road and see those empty buildings staring back at you... almost as if they are saying, "Is that all you plan to do... drive by?" The temptation to do more is too intense.


I have enjoyed my research on this place and hope to complete my book soon for all to read and learn the things I have learned about it.

R.Deming

12:03 AM on February 12, 2011

Worked in Building 22 for a couple of years in the early 70s. I still have a strange interest in the place. I guess because I lived in KP.I live out west but visit now and then. Like to drive thru the place.

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Jason Medina
2:16 AM on December 6, 2010 

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Hey, Rick... would you care to share your story with me and maybe I could put something in my book that will tell of your experience? You can remain anonymous if you like. I'd really like to hear more stories from former patients.


You can email me at [email protected]

rick

3:56 PM on December 5, 2010 

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this was not a very good place no matter what the works there said. I bein in there so i no. this place was very bad.

Jason Medina

4:02 AM on November 28, 2010 

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I added yet another video of the KPPC. This one has footage taken from most of my videos made at the abandoned hospital. I used a song by Marilyn Manson because it goes well with the footage and sets the mood just right. I hope you all enjoy it. Like all my other videos it can also be found on YouTube under my user name Valen213.

Jason Medina

9:23 PM on November 22, 2010

I added 3 videos, which include the interior of Building 136 and the underground tunnels.

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Jason Medina

7:29 PM on November 9, 2010 

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I added 12 new photos after my recent visit to Kings Park. I'll probably add more soon. I'm trying not to use duplicate photos of buildings. I want to show as much of the hospital as possible.

Jason Medina

2:46 PM on October 29, 2010 

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Heading back to Kings Park on November 3 to do some more research for the book. I hope to find some old blueprints and information on the early cottages. Maybe I can get some answers to the questions I still have regarding those structures. I also want to take a ride through the hospital grounds for some more pics. Hopefully, I can finally get to meet with King Pedlar. He agreed to be at the museum that day.

Jason Medina

2:11 PM on September 5, 2010 

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Yeah, I know about Kirkbride and his theories. I'll be mentioning that in the early part of my book. I like the idea about allowing as much sunlight into a building as possible. In the early part of the day I often leave the lights off and go by sunlight until I can no longer see the keyboard letters of my computer. I actually leave most of the lights off in my house at night, too, except the room I am in. I like the darkness better, even though I enjoy natural sunlight in the daytime to light my room. It pleases my insanity. Ha, ha, ha.

KPSHMRU

7:18 AM on September 5, 2010 

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It is interesting that the buildings were designed to be relatively narrow so as to allow as much sunlight onto the arwds as possible. That concept was the result of the scientific thinking during the "Enlightenment" of the 1800s. That concept carried through the construction of Bldgs. 21, 22, and 7 from the late 1950s through mid 1960s.

Jason Medina

3:29 PM on September 4, 2010 

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I added another video today. It shows mostly the exterior of some buildings, but I did throw in some more footage from inside of Building 15. I used a Pink Floyd song to set the mood.

Jason Medina

1:22 PM on September 4, 2010

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I love the way many of the buildings were designed. It's what helps make the place so fascinating to me. Of course, the way building 93 looks is my favorite. The first time I saw it appearing out from the misty fog in the distance was just like out of a ghost movie. I also love how the group 4 buildings connect to each other and how 21 and 22 connect to each other and lead to 7. The fact that most of the buildings were connected through underground tunnels just puts the icing on the cake.


If I had worked there I would have been taking pictures all the time during my breaks. If I had grown up in Kings Park I would have been working security there just so I could go through the buildings whenever I wanted to do so. I also would have spent a great deal of time exploring after it shut down before it began to fall to pieces.


I am only sorry I heard about it so many years after it closed. I feel like I missed out on a lot.


My nephew and I wonder sometimes if we have some sort of deep unconscious connection to the place. I have never really been one to believe in past lives, but I wonder if maybe we were there before. We both have an intense fascination with the hospital and its history. When I am there I feel very different than what other people describe they feel. I actually feel very much at peace as if it is safe for me.


One time my nephew and I were inside 15 and we were looking around a basement room. We were not next to each other since the room was pretty big. I noticed chess pieces scattered on the floor. At that moment I decided if I found the black knight, then I would keep it as a badge of courage or something like that. I felt like I had earned it after all this time. I found it. Now I never like to take anything from the haunted places I visit. I still was debating at the time if the building was haunted or not. I still am. Anyway, I found the black knight and picked it up. I turned to my nephew to tell him I was going to take it and he was standing there holding the other black knight thinking of a way to tell me he wanted to take it home. Coincidence? I don't believe in coincidences. I think everything happens for a reason. We thought it was interesting when we also noticed large cut outs of horse heads shaped like the knight chess pieces. When I got home I looked through old pics that I downloaded of Building 15 to see if they were in those photos. They were, but I found something even more eerie. I noticed a banner hanging on the wall in another photo that said Ward 61 with pictures of black knight chess pieces at either side of the words.

I think in some strange way my nephew and I were meant to find those chess pieces.

KPSHMRU
9:34 AM on September 4, 2010 

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I have decided to go on the assumption that the bricks are of more or less standard size. I have the LIO book. I will do some calculations. An intriguing aspect of the building is the ventilation system. The walls are noticeably thicker between the dayrooms and the main long part of the building. They contain air shafts that continue up through the "chimneys" on the roof. The only true chimneys were those at the far end of both dayrooms above the fireplaces. The air shafts in the dayrooms were plastered over before my time there. However, the brass air vests still existed high up on the walls near the ends of the main hallway. Pretty ingenious design; using the constant sea/land breezes on LI to create air flow throughout the interior of the building.

Jason Medina

10:09 PM on September 3, 2010 

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If the building wasn't falling apart I'd go there and do all kinds of measurements for you, but I have stayed away from that place on purpose. There are measurements in the book by Long Island Oddities that has all the blueprints. It doesn't have measurements of the windows, though.


However, the gross area of the basement and first floor was 13,085 square feet. The gross area for the second floor was 11,069 square feet. The net area of the basement was 8,046 square feet, while the 1st floor was 7,054 square feet and the second floor was 6,686 square feet.


You have that book, right? If not, let me know and I will send you everything it says or rather the scanned page instead. If you look at the actual blueprint on that page you can see they wrote in the measurements of each side of the building. You can probably guess the window widths from there. The only thing I think you'd probably need is the height of the building and its windows. Judging by the inside of some of the other buildings, photographs, and the age of the group 2 buildings, I am guessing the ceiling was probably about 10 feet above the floor. The windows look like they began at about 1 foot off the ground and go almost up to the ceiling. I think you can wing it.


If not, I could always make an attempt to go to 122 before they tear it down. It is scheduled for demolition this fall.

KPSHMRU

8:34 AM on September 3, 2010 

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Hello, Jason,

Got your message. It is harder than I thought it would be to scale the building from photographs. I have the general outside dimensions, but I need to determine external and internal wall thicknesses. Without direct access to Bldg. 122 (virtual twin of 124), I have to derive some dimensions from the dimensions of the bricks and mortar. If I still lived in Kings Park, I would simply go to the hospital with some measuring tools to get dimensions of windows, doors, etc.; however, I might be able to get an approximation by scaling up from the brick and mortar dimensions and simply apply the data to old photographs. Somewhat daunting. I have been doing some scaling from photographs, but it is difficult because of perspective of pictures.


The project is made somewhat more difficult because I want to portray the building as it was first constructed with the original porches and roofing (barrel tile), neither of which survive, other than in photographs.


I am committed to the project and have been acquiring materials for construction of the model.

Jason Medina

7:05 PM on September 2, 2010 

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There might not be a lot of feedback here, yet, but the pot has definitely been stirred on Sean Hopkins' blog over at City Noise. I have lots of great information from there and new contacts to use for my book. Of course, good old Barry has not let me down on that site or on the Kings Park Museum website. Thanks, Barry. I promise you will love this book when it is finally done.


Here is the link to Sean's blog... http://citynoise.org/article/9051


Here is the link to the museum's website... http://kingsparkmuseum.info/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1

KPSHMRU

8:13 AM on August 20, 2010 

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Hello Jason,

Keep up the good work.

Jade Gonzalez

7:56 AM on August 20, 2010 

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Good Luck Jason. I can't believe you can go into an abandoned building at night, tu ta loco? lol

Jason Medina

4:28 AM on August 20, 2010 

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I would like to hear any feedback from anyone who reads this page. I'd especially love to hear from people who worked at the hospital or were patients at the hospital. Also, if you live at Kings Park or have ever went into one of the abandoned buildings and have had any strange experiences, then please let me know. Just make sure to make a note if you do not wish me to use your story or name in my book. Thanks.

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